Would be the smartest thing they could do, what they fuck are they doing otherwise - besides providing testimony to inequality?

accent calibration?

Seriously the brand value would go up billions

England outlawed slavery in the 19th century and actively fought and stopped those that were in the business of slavery.

Back in the day it wasn't like there was one country enslaving another, it was a world wide business and England stood up to the world to stop it. England has already had it's anti-slavery moment, it took place over a hundred years ago and since then we have been against it.

There were African tribes capturing and selling people to slavers, do you want them to pay as well, and who do you want them to pay?

The Chinese and Persians also took slaves from Africa, they castrated them.

Pulling down statues and washing over history is going to do more to help people to forget that it ever happened, we should leave the statues up and educate people so that we know to never ever let it happen again.

Taking away someone's freedom without reason and trading in people's misery is about as bad as it gets and I repeat, we should never let it happen again. Pulling down statues is another step in the direction of helping people forget that it ever happened and if we can't learn from the past then we are in danger of repeating it.

regardless the royals personally owned slaves and here they still are able to pay up for it.

Hindsight is twenty twenty, as they say. It is, however, useless when we are aimlessly stumbling through the present moment to survive. I liken the experience to growing older and maturing. If we were to atone for every sin we accumulated through childhood, we'd mostly ALL be skint, black, white, yellow, brown, or rainbow-coloured. If you are always looking back over your shoulder, you'll never look forward.

and what about the 1.5 million white slaves taken from europe by africans? dont they count?
or was reading real history too complicated for you? clown.
we abolished slavery while african chiefs were putting cages full of slaves on the beaches waiting for profit.
over 2000 british servicement died fighhting slavers while it was still legal in every other country on earth.
more blacks owned slaves than whites did...and over 90% of slaves in africa died before they reached sdale.
but dont let the truth effect your ill informed media driven propaganda.

I had a feeling you were here Charles.

Exactly this.

Who should they pay reparations to?

The African countries that are still using their own people as slaves?

that would exclude all the descendants of slaves since they were taken away from those countries

Why do descendants deserve anything? Would they move back to Africa now? They probably have a better life where they are.

The Romans enslaved most of Europe but you don't see Europeans begging for a handout from Italy. Same with the Vikings and Denmark.

Who to?

I'll have a bit, probably give it to charity but the thought would mean a lot.

bigg up

The royals don’t have bank accounts or given any cash so how it would be the firm who are the slave masters of the royals watch Harry’s speech about it they are only allowed direct material items i suppose they can hand out their TVs and shirts off their backs? Do your research.

Nice idea though. If anything it should be the government but then it’s been so long now it’s like getting paid for someone running over your dog it’s not really the same as it never happening in the first place but smart fascism and racism is bigger than ever. And it always stems from the top down never the other way around.

in short their finances are
assets: around 1 billion
income from property: 20 million pounds every year
income from each of our pockets: 80 million pounds every year

reckon they can afford something here and still live it up like they like to.

if they embraced it that would be something

Last comment on this subject from me;) humans are almost clones of each other. For example to apes are always more genetically different than any two humans and they basically do the same in life due to most being born in to similar situations. So it’s very easy to judge people for their mistakes, when if born in the same situation, we may do very similar things. It’s very easy to say how wrong things were and are from the we have everything we need perspective that we look from nowadays in developed countries anyway. Using others for your own gain is wrong imo but if you were born into the Royal family, ask yourself, how vocal about reparations would you be? Peace

I'd be vocal, at least it would be an alternative to the monotoous life of bullshit I'd otherwise be living.

story of the Buddha starts right there

slavery was always wrong, it was cheap and easy and the other guy was doing it but anyone with a conscience is hard wired to know stealing people in chains and imprisoning them for life isnt ok.

Slavery still exists , it’s just changed name to employee. If you are working, it’s for shareholders benefit,

The means of exchange for employment is money. The means of exchange for slavery is the threat of violence. Most humans can see a big difference in this.

uh yeah i think its a little different if you're getting paid for your work and have a choice of employers. different than being kidnapped or bred into a life of hard labour.

this, what we are forced to live, is not slavery as on a cotton plantation, but it still is slavery. best proof is the "distribution of wealth". its just a different kind of slavery. where we are our own slave-drivers haha. it is essentially feudalism and it is becoming digital more and more.

feudalism is very different to slavery, some of our ancestors had the pluck to get out of it and become tradesmen, artisans, even adventurers. today a lot of people are born into fucked circumstance but many more have education and at least a shot.

a slaves life (if they made the journey which murdered a majority of them) was *nothing* like this.

literally no, but conceptually yes. at least to my mind

You're not forced to work for someone else. It's your choice and the easy option. There's nothing to stop you starting you own business except gumption and effort.

I won’t write a response because it would take a lot of writing for you to see the similarities. Just ask yourself though. How much of your life is for you? Why did you get sent to school? Can you roam about freely? How many of us are stuck in a job , just so we can pay the bills? Who is benefiting from your consumption? Are you doing what you want to be doing or are you enriching someone else’s life by working hard? What does that sound like? Peace;)

it sounds nothing like moral equivalence, not by orders of magnitude. it also sounds like a response, just a very weak one.

Well I hope you eventually find some level of peace and a way to deal with the reality of life now and our shared history for your future sanity;) take care

and a weaker gas light attempt, like a match next to a small fart.

Not really. I mean it , truly. Why haven’t I downvoted a single post of yours? Because I feel for your tormented minds

All life is suffering. So make it meaningful :)

Now your talking. Agreed;)

Tribal elders fought and captured other tribe members and sold them to Europeans its still practiced today so go point the finger straight back and ask them

"It wasn’t wrong then though." Cue modern day comparison. You are so uninformed it's actually a bit sad but more proper cringe tbh.

Yes I am the sad one. I’m not the one whining about how wealthy others have been 100’s and thousands of years ago by following the laws of their time. Whining about others is just a deflection from your own faults;) try thinking about what you can do now to make the world a better place, not whining about history. Also now the black people who are descendants of slaves don’t seem to want to go back to live in the country of their genetic heritage, right? I wonder why;)

Who's been whining? Me (no) or some other or every single Black person? And why on earth would some random U.S/U.K Black dude "want to go back to live in the country of their genetic heritage". What planet are you living in? A very white one, I imagine.

Only because my grandparents had to flee out of their country due to they would of been killed . Also stripped of their lands / money and I am not asking for reparations from anyone. Just saying

Right. And so do you want to "go back to live in the country of YOUR genetic heritage"? Or do you think that question doesn't apply bc you're White? I think that's the road you're going down here, isn't it? Assuming it's WWII, there's really no Nazi's left for you to claim reparations from, is there? If your Grandparents are from the middle east, then reparations are for the regime of that time and place whether current or not. BTW I think any Black person claiming reparations is an attention seeking fool, usually found on the end of a megaphone dictating the new world order to a bunch of (majority) white middle class uni students basically out on a day-trip with banners like "white privilege is real" and "eggs are a chickens period!".

You can see through the bullshit w/o being bias. Just saying

how the fuck is white privilege not real?

Straight out the gate. Chill, Raj, or your banner with all its bullet points of what White Privilege is may get damaged. Simply put, because I'm White, have grown up with Black friends with more advantages and privileges than me. I've lived in council estates all over the UK, some of which I'm the minority. The only ppl that seem to scream white privilege are Americans and UK white middle-upper class angry women, who are without a shadow of a doubt; PRIVILEGED. Same colour as me, but worlds apart. It's that simple. Don't try and tell me I've had more advantages and not used them, w/o knowing the first thing about me - just that I'm white and therefore privileged? Is that the sum of the profiling, Raj?

you just said white privilege is real in other classes.

don't doubt you get a pass when class distinctions are bigger than race.

Wow! This reply is literally from weeks ago, and you think I wrote what now? Raj you are so off course, it's like some Jake Paul 4+4=5 conclusion. You've reached new levels of dumb digging for the ever elusive reasons you're not smart enough to be a dentist. Honestly I think it's kinds cool. You should get a podcast and enlighten all your friends. Ciao4now, bud.

" just that I'm white and therefore privileged? Is that the sum of the profiling"

Yes. That's what white privilege means.

We don't need to know anything about you, all other things being equal, you're better off than your black neighbour.

"We don't need to know anything about you". Who is "we" on this occasion? Just so I'm on the same page..

'We' in this context means everyone who isn't 'you'.

Well there's some irony spelled out and still not clicking. Figures. Lovely bit of sanctimony btw, PieBoi. Props.

Sanctimony? Irony?

I'm not making a judgement, I'm explaining what's meant by the term.

White Privilege does not mean the least privileged white person is still better off than every black person, which is what you're railing against.

It means wherever you are and whatever you're doing, a black person in the same position has fewer opportunities than a white person.

A white doctor gets paid more than a black one.

A white police officer has more opportunities for promotion than a black one. That kind of thing.

"I'm not making a judgement". It's the only thing you have done.

"It means wherever you are and whatever you're doing, a black person in the same position has fewer opportunities than a white person."

You sound like the kind of person that really over emphasises the "awwww THANK YOU" whenever you buy anything from a bus ticket to a house off anyone Black.

Your quote is pretty much the banner I mentioned above (when everything you've described is pay disparities within 2 industries that by-and-large have Black top-dogs, just like Obama). Look I'm bored of this I feel like you look like a really angry Velma Dinkley at this point no offence. Bye.

Haha I’ve been called a lot of things in my life, but never that.

You misunderstood me, I hate this moderation of language as much as you do.
I’d much rather racists are allowed to be as clear as you are, then we all know where we stand.

Peace be upon you.

"I’d much rather racists/then we know where we stand". I hope you're not including me in that. I'm currently the only white dude in a house of 5 so that's me homeless. But I know my views are of my own. I have a Chinese boss and White people wince when I do a perfect impression of him. That's me. No malice or hate. You raised some valid points and I'm digging my heels in. Props for taking the digs on the chin. Peace.

Big of you man.
Sorry if my last one was a bit hot.

Big up.

It's about being honest and checking yourself. I would like to add my thoughts on UK (not US!) white privilege are pretty much summed up here by Kemi Badenoch. It used to be called a "pond" (Atlantic), but since social media breaking borders it hardly feels that anymore. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vf7yX9ESRc

fair enough and i would probably feel the same from that perspective but what you are missing is the punitive damages aspect of the liability.

at a time when the world is turning more separatist and fascist it's especially valuable to know that shit like that is held accountable for ever.

Make this guy a politician please

As does the BBC.

If you’re not so sure check out…..

biasedbbc.tv

I think you will be very surprised. Not to mention begin to question the licence fee.

Try it and see Biggaz.

i thought this was going to be a rational catalogue of bbc bias - which would be a great concept

yes each postbox should be 1st in best dressed. every carrier has a key, everything tracked.

They could all pay rent that goes to improve the local neighbourhood of the postbox.

Theres nothing stopping an upstart from taking RM on. But you won't get them sharing postboxes..lol

As far as monopoly goes, the clue is the "royal" in their name ;)

Other companies like UK Mail and Whistl use RM infrastructure, but only for last mile delivery.

Drone strikes seem to be the in things these days. But not very legal!! 😂

Right boys wish.com just landed with are drones grab your batteries 🤞

A completely new legislature, validating a parliament.
All validity of Parliament is essentially given by the royals. Hence the ability to prorogue when asked etc.
You are probably looking at a lengthy constitution that encapsulates the Bill of Rights, and other legislation that currently underpins the British citizens rights and collectively forms a constitution.
I expect if it comes it would be an unwinding process over a decade.
The issue is, who do you trust to write the constitution for a constitutional Republic?

would make a better referendum than brexit :)

The Royals are like influencers that never wanted the job.

greedy cunts they are, when people need help they still want billions more for themselves

gotta love how they spend it though

masks were a lot more fun back then

its not like they pick up a check either

it's really hard to imagine what satisfaction they can receive from more money

her writing is just as boring and repetitive as the brexit drama

Brexit voters are going to have to own this mess.

but her books cast a spell on them

Casting spells of angry facebook memes.. And when all the shit starts (couple of weeks now) they will simply blame all those foreigners again.. Exciting, isn't it?

Yeah, they'll not though. They'll blame everyone BUT themselves. That's why we are where we are.

what is going to happen on January 1st everything is changing isn’t it

you are not familiar with the work of u2.
i envy you.

LOL bigga's got a point ;)

weve gone from kings to algorithms

kings wouldn't bother entering unless you had a beautiful daughter, algos are up in all you can ever shit

Or a fucking-over manual

2020 must be a dream year for Foucauldians. Biopolitics doesn't seem so abstract on Day 30 of lockdown, does it?! Having said that, and as much as I admire his later work, he can never tell a causal story of how we got here, and that's what I want from an explanation.

Me to

Isn't every society a disciplinary society? Even in the animal kingdom there is accountability, consequence and learning.

I would say there are both unnatural and natural versions of a disciplinary society, one which is and one which is not forced.

wonder which we are in...

interesting, examples?

Barcelona during the Spanish Civil War (1936 - 1939) is considered a good example of an Anarchist or non-authoritarian socialist community.

super interesting i never knew this

I really miss the 5 minutes when the Russians weren't the bad guys. I think it was Arabs if I remember.

true courage

Go on then, how did class win Brexit?

The lower classes manipulated to vote for it?

Or the upper classes seeking to benefit from it by manipulating lower classes to vote for it?

the lower class was rallied against the immigrant class.

The game is rigged.....just like them twin towers almost 20 years ago!

just like some biggaz synapses are for conspiracy :)

Too right and mind you this is an action against state owned media to begin with!

I've never understood how a country as advanced as that can rely on the state for media.

We don't that would be horrific! We have mostly independent media here in the UK

Inderpendent media in the uk lol are you joking me lol maybe a few newspapers like other guy said like inderpendent n guardian are better than mainstream but tgats nog hard and even those are not inderpendent peace

we don't. the article here is from the Independent, we also have the Guardian, which brought the world the Snowden story.

Ironically state owned media can be more critical of the government than corporate media the ABC in Australia and NPR in the US are a couple of examples.

The BBC have been covering up a lot recently. Another ex-employee has been harassed for the past year including illegal home searches and all sorts of shenanigans.