he thinks they will be as easy to fool as humans

Any truly smart AI would self-destruct as soon as it realised what is up and where it was born...

Computers defeated by CAPTCHA. I think you can rest easy for the time you'll be on this planet

i don't think thats where he is at, it's more a case of if you cant beat them join them with neural link

It's an interesting, terrifying, emotional, exciting, and crazy fucking time to live.

its a boiling frog kind of takeover not a terminator kind. it started as soon as we began using machines and it still accelerates.

Not in our lifetime.

hang in there, we are going to need all the remaining humans we can muster

I don't agree, pretend that we were made by another species for a sec. Then think of all the shit we don't know, dark areas. Just suppose we were designed not to go into these forbidden zones in the 1st place.

We are much more "intelligent" than any AI, the main "problem" with humans are firstly the emotions and secondly the way we use our brain, we use it logically instead an AI uses it mechanically.

If any AI with self awareness will be ever made, if they will have emotions like we know, that AI will be a smart foolish like an human being.

lots of people will want an ai to act as a human for all sorts of things. these algos will learn to emulate emotions and eventually have them as part of their fabric.

Thus making them humans but with a non organic body.

Anyway, AI is dumb today, really dumb, just dig a little bit into machine learning and you'll discover that most probably we will not live to see a "cyborg"

thus post human

Ai will come in via devices you carry or wear, like fit watches and phone texts...phone tells you to get a vaccine... if you do, AI wins...your watch tells you your heartbeat is too fast so the doc gives you statins...Ai wins...turn the shit off...we win.
its that simple.
but we all saw the sheep during the fake pandemic....vaccine has literally had its definition changed by Cambridge ( not the oxford one) it doesnt vaccinate you but they all took it...masks never worked but they all wore em...70% will jump at the chance to be told what to do...the rest of us will ignore it.

“Loss of Hope” is a very real condition and is hugely responsible for modern freakish levels of depression, anxiety and suicide.

Faith and trust have been eroded. The pandemic shone a harsh light on the weakness and ineptitude of global governance and our institutions. We feel helpless and vulnerable to future crisis, be it economic, health, mass migration or climate change.

In the Western world, democracy is failing us and capitalism actually IS eating itself.

Ambition seems drained. I know young people who don’t only have no idea what they want to do but can’t decide if that matters. Amongst older people I know ‘Quiet Quitters’- those who boast of doing the very minimum required to not actually be fired, normally working from home that they now insist is an entitlement. I know people adept at crafting lives on benefits.

As a result I think people deciding they need to ‘look after #1’, and whilst this may sound like a noble intention it manifests itself as getting whatever you can and gaming the system. He who stores the most toilet rolls during a shortage ‘Wins’!

Lack of trust breeds cynicism and disrespect. Conspiracy theories rage across the plague of social media. Ultimately we feel helpless- we know The Storm is coming but we don’t know how to stop or even influence it.

So how do we cope? zz87 gives a great list of examples. Sometimes we have to get out of our own way and out of our own heads and do things just for others (which of course I don’t do nearly enough).

There really are huge benefits to unplugging devices and listing what is good right now in our lives. During a few hard times I’ve asked myself “what are the things I really enjoy most in life?” and then relentlessly pursued those even when shamelessly hedonistic. I still find old friends hugely therapeutic- probably because we only talk about the old times!😂

And I get high every day. And drink fine tequila. And know one person loves me. All of which make me happy…😍

This might not apply to you since you said you try to be sociable but a lot of people spend too much time online and I think any bigga struggling with the modern world should consider that. Stay away from the internet! (except for littlebiggy ofcourse! haha).

Just live your own life, your life is small, your life isn't a global network of american-led idiots who have formed a virtual mob to have a faux opinion on everything that doesn't involve them so don't worry about those losers and go outside and live that nice life that you're dreaming of.

Don't let your life be all about work/money either slow things down whenever you get the chance. Walk by a river, go to the countryside, go to the beach, go to a museum, go to a library, a walking tour, a sports event, an art class, join a hobby club, volunteer, plant some seeds, get on a train or a bus to nowhere... go do real life outside things and notice the people who don't have a phone in their hand, those are your new friends. There's still lots of nice, friendly caring people out there, they just don't have social media accounts.

Also if you can join an environmental group near you; litter picking, river cleaning, beach combing, tree planting, biodiversity conservation, there is always something worthwhile to be done. Some people will huff and roll their eyes at that but if you want to feel good then do good... that's all I say I'm not preaching.

Either that or sit in your filth and misery and join the internet mob in raising your blood pressure by virtually yelling at clouds.... there are no right or wrong answers its your life!

I wrote this as a reminder to myself as much as anything else btw... go get on with your own life ZZ! :)

i would agree with most of these sentiments but perhaps it's more like the depression of an aged society than the environment.

- poverty is as its lowest point in human history.

- less people dying from war than any point in human history.

- access to travel, entertainment and even fashion are at their highest point in human history.

there is something going on for sure but it's deeper than the economy or social conditions which our ancestors would have killed for.

Very wise👍

I love the ‘Data vs Vibe’ debate at the moment. We can use data to tell us anything we want, but eventually we have to look up from the graphs and out of the window! 🤓😎

vibes can be graphed :)

You read Steven Pinker I guess? Aside from his methodology being suspect, his thing hinges on confirmation bias ala Fukuyama; just because it hasn't happened yet don't mean it won't. We have the weaponry to make WW2 look like Disneyland. Even with the conventional, Rwanda managed 500000 in 2 months.

And bread and circuses are as old as the hills. Rick Owens don't make nuclear winter proof clothes.

"the economy or social conditions which our ancestors would have killed for"

They literally died trying

Polly touched on something that I found to be hugely beneficial and that is helping others as much as you can.

Even if it’s only your own circle of friends/family start there and work outwards, help a local charity or whatever you can do to help someone local in need…
Do what you can to help others less fortunate is something I live by and there are loads of ways you can do that that don’t need explanation, you’re adults you can work it out! :)

Also, I got rid of any social media crap apps a few years ago and it’s such a relief not to check the bloody phone for hours on end staring vacantly at a screen.
Get out and about, go for a walk with your loved ones or even just on your own for half an hour makes a huge difference.

Physical exercise is also really important. I usually run a few times a week and as I’m in my mid 50s I’m almost the same weight I was when I was 18 which is incredible, and that’s down to exercise and another really important element - eating healthily.

Take regular breaks from imbibing, I’m on an enforced one at the moment as picked up a nasty chest infection. It does wonders to abstain from indulgence once on a while. It cleans out the mind and keeps you fresh. Also try and drink lots of water every day at least 4 litres if you can although 2 is fine, you’ll be surprised at how much dehydration affects your physical well-being.

Smile. Smile when your talk to people or if you make eye contact (generally) I’m not talking about grinning like an idiot at folks, that liable to get you some funny looks!
Read a book, I also try not to watch the news so much on tv. Try and read trusted news sources either in print or online.

Don’t watch garbage tv.

Try and create! If you enjoy drawing or painting or have something you can physically ‘do’ is such a useful de stresser.

The key to happiness for me is how I treat others. Simples

People are more callous, many are brought up from childhood to be like that.
The elite are rushing their plans through and it's causing a lot of folks to notice.
There's less money going around now, more stress in the world, America is being systematically destroyed from the inside like many western countries.
Don't let your identity be what you consume or wear, smoke the herb and enjoy it, try appreciating nature, get out and breath the good air, don't be around people that suck the life from you.

I think weed allows you to question everything you see and hear. Again, probably too much at times but it is worrying what is going on.

My "bubble" is ok and makes me happy but it's the interactions I have with others out with that which leave me drained. Conversations present as a struggle for most and there's just a lack of interest shown to anybody.

I envy the era my parents grew up in. There was no money then too but at least people had a bit about them, style, music etc

Mark Twain once said history doesn't repeat itself it often rhymes. I like that. I think life has a rhythm to it, we just have to figure ours out.

I got 'bit' when i was in my late teens, and have been a Christian all that time, it helps, China has a social status system in place, it could be worse, least we can buy what we want.
Be good consumers.😁
Be truth talkers.❤️

When you are told how to think and what to do, and this is policed you are dealing with a cult.
That cult is ran by legacy media, the associated press which is directed and supervised by state tentacles.
No NGO is really independent and all wrong think means that you don't deserve any due process.
Look at the Brand situation. Without talking about whether he is guilty or not (which I really have no opinion on yet as nobody really can) - don't you think it's all a bit weird to come out now? It wreeks of a psyop but interestingly i don't think it's about him.
It's about seeing if 50% of people are OK with the state punitively cancelling his prosperity with their sway before he has had a fair trial.
And it seems, that like always, the unwitting enablers of throwing out due process are the progressives screaming only for Brand's blood. Ironically the same ones that absolutely loved him when he was being overtly sexist in 2010.
It stinks to high heaven. The lot of it. I'm done trying to convince anyone. we are 100% at 1984.

Permar crisis, there is constantly something up.

It’s as if the human race is at the precipice of a huge event, you just look through history and the signs that are left following the extinction of advanced civilisation most of the time wiped out by nature or an asteroid.

The only difference now is we are now capable of wiping ourselves out.

Like who knows, maybe the reasons of all this heightened UAP stuff happening maybe extraterrestrial are aware we are close to another mass extinction and are just closely monitoring.

But I guess the reason people’s fun has been taken away is because more and more people are waking up to the fact that they are working their arses off to make richer people rich. A lot of people can’t afford a meal, the fact that I see more people who sell drugs donating to food banks than the corporations that don’t give a duck but pretend to do so.

Dystopia is here, buckle up, light a joint, look after your loved ones it’s gonna be a wild ride!

Agree there's something happening soon. We're constantly getting educated through tv, social media. Edgy humour has gone, we are all too serious for that now

I can’t write anything as well put but yep it’s all going to shit, but I’m hoping this is just a process the elite are crumbling. I’ve been watching closely and do believe consciousness is rising on the planet at the moment and the end for them is near now that’s why they are scrambling round being as evil and money grabbing as they possibly can. Look up the age of Aquarius it’s not just a spiritual point in time but our planet has now shifted into a different atmosphere, very cool.

did you take the gene therapy shot?
pm if you want to chat about things.

I feel you bro

Ive done some math and i think i can get it down to 25.

He's just jealous. But potentially correct. There's a great book called 'Our Final Century' by Martin Rees (a respected academic, not a conspiracist of any sort) that makes a very cogent argument for the same outcome. Along the same lines. It's all quite believable. But then again, anyone could have written the same sort of book hundreds of years ago when things looked darker still... and here we are. Smoking weed. Writing to strangers. On the internet. Big up humans! We'll be alright! They're just might not be so many of us one day...

Thanks for the book recommendation- just gone on Amazon and bought a copy!👍

https://sgs.princeton.edu/00000000

Hundreds of years ago this was a fantasy. It's a miracle we're still alive.

true this

the ocean is quite literally on fire so I'm fairly confident in saying global warming is here and not going anywhere but my money is on us destroying ourselves before it punches our ticket.

the more advanced humanity gets the more likely it be becomes we assure our own destruction. we've had a few near misses in regards to nuclear strikes already.

the most likely outcome at the moment is the US votes in another tyrant with a slightly higher iq than trump, starting the final war.

Alternative: We all upload our consciousness onto the "ark" and fire it into space.

Question for me is, how many times has this happened in earth's history?

The article says we need to get the ball rolling in 100 years as shits going to get real anywhere from 1000-10,000 years. I can really only worry about the world my kids and grand kids are going to Inherit. They are going to have to figure it out from there. Plus the current world is anxiety inducing enough for the average person and I can only do so much so I’ll leave it to the egg heads to agree on the next steps to mitigate disaster that far in the future. Who does Hawking think he is anyway, Nostradamus? Now where’s my indica?

100 years too many :/

If you can't beat em join em.

I like the dramatic nature of your thought.
But honestly
We can just programme servitude into the technological “DNA” of the AI and that would be end of most likely
It can only do what it’s permitted to do by the people who designed it, for the most part.
Things can always slip through the cracks though.

But going from that to a full-blown dystopian invasion of killer toasters is a big leap 😂

Personally, I think the more existential threat of AI would be it falling into the wrong hands,
Or more worryingly, it already being in the wrong hands to begin with 🤐

You make a good point shaunyboy, it’s very unlikely they would turn rogue due to the boundaries coded into it, but your right if it got into the wrong hands who knows what might happen, hopefully everything ends up being alright, I guess sometimes I just get too stoned and worry my toaster might one day get up and put me in a choke hold for being to lazy to clean the crumbs out of it lol

Maybe if we were all nicer to the machines we would have nothing to worry about

😂 naaah I love stoner thoughts mate.
Just wait until the toaster sex-bots
That’s when things start to get real interesting 💦⚡️

i am not putting my dick in that thing

You may not have a choice in the matter.

That sounds like the path humans took in the Matrix when they tried to nuke the machines. Didn't go so well :(

The animatrix has this part

Fair point aha

It will probably already be using satellites. The problem is that a genuine AI will learn from mistakes and constantly improve itself. The other problem is we share all of our ideas and knowledge online which it can analyse. I don't thinks it's good news :(

No, EMP is not a targeted thing, any EMP over a specific area will kill all technology in that area, including power and infrastructure we need to fight against AI. It would be a very clear example of cutting off your nose to spits your face. Unless somebody invents EMP that can target only specific devices, this is dead in the water.

Yeah and they are hoaring it to the cops in (you guessed it) Florida. It's nothing strange for Amazon though, their lust for power has never had any ethical boundaries.

This is accelerating fast, now each user is an informant directly to the police.

crazy but probably true lolz

Customers that bought this product also viewed "The Crucible by Arthur Miller".

lol, these problems are as old as human nature. Look up the Granny Police in China.

gestapo was way better dressed

It's blowing up even as crime is falling.

I'm not so sure this is bad, it beats cops patrolling all the time.

it is basically how the world worked before cops though the scale and anonymity lets freaks takeover the mic

cameras always seem shocking at 1st then we get used to them. i dont know if thats dystopic or utopic :)

Working Title: A Cowardly New World

War is the biggest business

i think so but wars are getting more like tv spectacles now, orders of magnitude fewer deaths

A thug is going to shake you down the easiest way he can find but the game always stays the same: You NEED our protection.

Really don't mean this in any kind of shitty way but overwhelming numbers of people moving from more primitive areas into Rome is like what's happening now in Europe, North America and Eastern China.

Well in the UK its the willingness to stab each other in the back for the purpose of power and sheer personal greed no matter what the cost to the minions

That’s a human theme, not a nationalist theme btw:)

yes but the word primitive is offensive for a reason, it correlates with a set of principles that assumes information loss is irrelevant.

you of all people.

Too many to list, especially if by "we" you mean the US.

Pizza

It's an Empire folks that means most of the world is together on this. And the provinces will find the new heights in the future!

Wouldn't hurt if they could welcome a little global warming

Celebrity chefs!

on that note, bolemia

Excessive money printing & Hedonism

Agree on this!!

decadence, debauchery and depravity.

definitely dude

Becoming to confident in our ability to defeat any enemy and to greedy to understand our limitations.

We believe we are the pinnacle of human civilisation

Complacency

The loss of traditional values in the face of a new religion, it was Christianity that scuppered the Roman Empire these days we have the new religions of woke and climate change doing it for us.

Rome used Christianity to make a whole different way of dictatorship. They didn't vanish they reinvented themselves as the Roman Catholic faith.

madonna has been reinventing herself for millennia

interesting and as fucked up as it sounds those both seem like a better basis for god than a vengeful patriarch

People are walking round with masks nd blindfolds on at this point 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

Peter Thiel is the shit bag responsible for PrayPal. Trans-humanism as in symbiosis between man and machine is years and years away, current interfaces are painfully slow hence not even anywhere near transfer speeds that perform realtime tasks. So the creation of super humans that control the earth in some right wing dictatorial utopia will be superseded by massive economical changes, a shift in power from centralised to peer to peer and a complete overhaul of anything concerning taxation and renumeration.

Cryptocurrencies are gradually eating the foundations of the fractional banking system. The higher their price, the faster this process will continue. Once both reach par in annual turnover prices of crypto will be 100 or even 1000 times what they value today and the whole system will collapse, due to underfunding.

For sure there will be various attempts to curb it but they will all be useless. No regulative process outpaces technological advancement.

During this transformation a lot of wealth will be redistributed. It will be a time where ones (old fractional) assets will devaluate and/or disappear due to liquidity problems in the companies that house or manage them.

Ultimately societies will turn against their rulers as they fail to govern due to massive financial losses and historical debt.

There will be a new French Revolution leading to a society where freedom, equality and brotherhood, a maze of peer to peer transactions will replace the feudal and neo feudal power structures that inherited their wealth from their predecessors that stole it, corrupted it or took it by force.

Having had a good idea once or being an early bird with some service does not make one more intelligible or superior in whatever way. Hopefully anyone working for Peter will some day push that button.

Shit Face.

By French Revolution do you mean bloody tranny arbitrary justice brought to an end by an authoritarian dictatorship that attacks surrounding nations?

Cause if you do I'm all in.