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Fifijane
by  Fifijane
Pain relief- plus is Oilman gone
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Fifijane
by  Fifijane
Meds, shrooms acid microdose
Hi there,
Two questions if I may :)
I'm supposed to take ADHD meds which are basically speed. I don't want to take it because I have an addictive personality, don't want to feel rough on the comedown and generally just don't want to put it in my body.

To a large extent I manage my symptoms with exercise, but at the moment and for the next two weeks at least, I can't exercise due to an injury.
I'm struggling enough to consider the meds. I know I will become addicted if I take it everyday, so I'm wondering if I can do this - one day microdose acid, one day microdose mushrooms, one day dirty meds. My thoughts are - this way I have two days between each different thing and so hopefully won't develop an addiction or tolerance to any of them.

Question being does anyone know how these three things would together in this way, if any would cancel either of the others out, stuff like that. I know the acid and shrooms both make me trip, but they feel totally different from the other.

Second question, similar vein - from what I understand it's OK to properly trip once a month, but is it OK to do it twice if one is on mushrooms and one on acid ( from a tolerance point of view)

Thank you, thank you in advance 🙏💛
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Psychonauts
Dear friends, it so interesting to read everyone’s experiences with psychedelics especially to see how differently it affects us all. For instance 5 drops of our Leisure time is a half drops of a Deep Dive which is still pretty deep for some but for Squidgy not touching the sides lol! And then for Mighty one drop is more than a micro which it feels for us too but according to the micro dose law a 10th of a full dose is the micro so hear we are :)

I think for us how we’ve learnt to work and especially to work with tolerance is to use the same theory as strain cycling. There are many natural ways to combat anxiety, pain and adhd and the deeper we look we can see that we don’t need those pharma nasties which just ends up making things worse. It’s not only shrooms and Lucy but what about watchuma and ayahuasca, ceremonial cacao etc…there are many ways friends so never stop looking at our beautiful plant kingdom to provide all the answers we need.

For example we’ve had some amazing results for adhd with our home made cannabis oils. High sativa strains like a blend of orange bud with blue dream when micro-dozed has helped a few of our friends who suffer with adhd. What we find is as you say…one day shroom…next day canna oil…next day Lucy etc. each has its own medicine but all can help. Only thing we’ve 100% noticed is it has to be organic cannabis my friends as we’ve seen anxiety increase when it’s not…we might be wrong and open to hear your thoughts but for us if it’s not organically grown with love we can feel the energy that comes through isn’t right and that’s why we make sure we know a 100% where all our meds come from…clear energy lines…clear mind xx We wish you well on this journey to healing xx
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Fifijane
I would like some of your home made, high sativa, ( was almost high 'saliva' ew.. orange bud with blue dream! Oh my god how amazing would it be to have another thing to swap out with! Please sell it!

I so totally love that you are able to feel when the energy that comes through isn't right, and can well believe it.

I don't need to tell you how grateful I am to you guys. So much love 💛🙏
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Squidgy Pete
I was also diagnosed with ADHD many years back . The speed made me crazy and it was really bad for my heart.
Imo , you're better off microdosing and finding solutions that way.
Who says people like us are ment to concentrate that hard anyway ?
I take a small dose once a week or so . Usually about 2-3 g of mushrooms or 4-5 drops of the Psychonoughts leasure time Lucy.
I can feel it but I don't get that high as I've built up a tolerance. I'm still able to go about my daily activities at this level , so it's kind of a mini dose .
I've also started meditating everyday , which I believe has a similar effect to mushrooms but is a little more subtle. They work well together.
It's training for the mind.
I feel pretty damn good this year and my physical health is much better than its been in years.
Imo , pharmaceuticals are designed to keep us sick. Psychedelics are the answer. Be free , my friend
Also , you will develop cross tolerance between psilocybin and lsd , so the only solution is to space them out. If you want a stronger experience, leave a longer space.
For this reason , people with addictive personality disorders will find it frustratingly difficult to abuse psychedelics .
Good luck.
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MightyRux
I'd be interested to know the timeframe of use and tolerance build up that results in 2-3g of shrooms or 4-5 drops of the Leisure Time being a microdose for you? I hadn't done any psychedelics for decades until doing 1.6g of shrooms in July and I found that quite intense, but manageable. I took 1 drop of the Leisure Time and felt it was more than a microdose for me too, but obviously nothing like the shrooms. I was thinking of 5-6 drops of the Lazer Focus to hit mild tab levels and trip, but maybe that's a bit much if you consider this to be similar to 2-3g of shrooms?
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Squidgy Pete
I started taking them regularly in January, so it's been a few months.
I am taking them a little less frequently these days to try to bring down my tolerance .
I do like to feel a little something. Although my best experience happened when I had a high tolerance and felt quite sober.
The magic is real , the mushrooms are just the key.
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Fifijane
Have you found any particular type of meditation to be particularly helpful with the ADHD symptoms?
And do think that if you only took the prescribed meds say once a week if you really needed it, that you personally would have been OK on that?
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Squidgy Pete
I'm not sure what meditation is best. I'm using an app with a bunch of meditations on .
It's helping me stop thinking in my usual cyclical ruts.
By watching my thoughts from a place of detachment, I'm finding that the old and useless thought patterns are starting to fade away.
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Fifijane
Loving the "old and useless thought patterns start to fade away", bit. So exciting to discover stuff can alter. A bit like having a bit of a different consciousness. Really exciting. So glad you've had such a valuable pay off from meditation.

And how totally brilliant to be able to 'watch your thoughts from a place of detachment. Everything happens way to fast for me to even be able to consider being able to do it - and not for want of trying! You must be super, uber mellow chilled
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Squidgy Pete
I've found that sometimes a racing mind is easier to watch than a slower one.
The trick is to know that you're not your thoughts and to just accept them as they are.
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Fifijane
The 'knowing I'm not my thoughts', bit, has been actually incredibly helpful today, thank you :)
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Fifijane
It is SO great and massively heartening to hear you're doing well without the big pharma nasties. I couldn't quite believe what I am asked to take... "amphetamine..?", "yes" , " Like ,'speed' amphetamine..?", "yes", everyday? ", "yes".. haha
May I ask if it was elvanse or the dexyam thing that affected your heart??

So you are able to take 2-3g of mushrooms/ or 4-5 drops of leisure time every week? And it still helps? Would you consider the effects of 2-3g of shrooms to be comparable to 4-5 drops?

I'm gutted to know there is a cross over thing with LSD and shrooms. I thought that as they feel so different and are different compounds it wouldn't be a thing. I was really excited about the implications of this with microdosing and the odd trip too many of a month for the wrong reasons, but I guess once a month it is.

I manage quite well when I'm getting the dopamine and endorphins from exercise, and since starting psychedelics my mental health has been in a great place, but without exercise...😬
As you say meditation is great. I'd recommend looking into transcendental if you haven't as yet :) I think one of tye keys to safe/ enjoyable trips is a disciplined mind. Not much better for that than meditation.

Cold as you can get them showers also amazing for a very whoopy 🎉 dopamine hit, although too much of that I'm finding also builds a tolerance quite quickly too. Looking forward to much colder water in the pipes in coming months :)
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TWDuke
Hi fifijane

Excellent advice from Squidgy Pete.

First thing to keep in mind is while psychedelics are truly the mind fireworks once those brain receptors have been activated it takes a while for them to settle down.

In a way the more potent the drug effect on the brain the longer it takes before being able to feel the full effect.

I have tried back to back high mushroom doses and the second one merely keeps you wherever you are left from the previous one. You simply don't go back there. You'll have to give it a few days between doses.

LSD and mushrooms have similar action on the brain serotonin receptor hence the crossover in building up tolerance.

Second make sure you find what constitutes a microdose for you, do not base yourself on somone else's routine: 4 to 5 drops of Leisure Time would put some people on the moon, it is half a full dose (actually a fourth of the dose Albert Hoffman ingested on Bycicle Day).

I have started microdosing (mushrooms for now - Lucy soon) at 0.1g dried plus an edible twice a week in the evening. It is low enough that I can sleep 6 to 7 hours after ingestion.

Find your baseline.

The other excellent bit of advice is meditation but you already know about this one. I am not qualified to teach but I guess less is more: focus on the breathing and whenever thoughts or sensations distract you focus back on the breathing like a beacon.Eventually the breather gets slower and deeper and the body relaxes while the internal chatter gets quieter and the mind gets calmer.

Good Luck
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Fifijane
Ps- TWDuke - if 4g of mushrooms is the right amount for somebody, what might be a comparable amount of acid be? I mean in terms of intensity
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TWDuke
Hi fifijane

Hard to tell but these amounts seem failry reliable fo rfull doses:

Psylocibin Recommended Dosage: 20 to 30 mg of psilocybin/70 kg of body mass (typically equates to about 3 to 5 grams of dried mushroom)

LSD Recommended Dosage: 50 – 150 µg (micrograms) per individual. Psychonauts deep dive is 125µg .

So the laser focus is just under a tenth of a deep dive. The equivalent mushroom dose would then be around 0.3g to 0.5g but bear in mind that not all mushrooms have the same potency.

I'm happy with 0.1g of dried mushroom, it is a true microdose where I can still function normally.

Cheers
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Fifijane
Thank you for this excellent cleverness :) TWDuke
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Fifijane
What are the funny u's you use After the the amounts?
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TWDuke
Hi fifijane

These are greek Mu letters which scientists use with the letter g to distinguish micrograms from milligrams.

And don't worry this place is not just a giant marketplace: the forums are here to exchange information and knowledge, share things we like and ask questions :-)

Cheers
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Fifijane
Excellent news! :))) TWDuke,
I nearly went and googled the 'funny u', thing, then thought - how much better to get the answer from an actual human with it in their actual brain and their experience. SO much more satisfying and authentic and valuable than googling.
It is great that we have instant information at our fingertips, but it does and has stopped me many times communicating and asking people things because it feels lazy not to google.
OK, so I'll ask a couple more questions then, haha

So is that Greek ų, part of their proper alphabet for normal everyday speaking, or is a special U just for science things. Or is it kind of ancient Greek?

Are micrograms bigger than milligrams?

You've mentioned going to pick liberty caps.
If you are a noob mushroom fan, should you not pick and shrivel up your own liberty caps because maybe you will pick some freakishly strong ones - since people say mushrooms can vary so much in potency from even the ones growing next to them, or they be really weak and it's a totally tedious waste of time, so just stick to letting people who know what's what choose your mushrooms. Is picking your own mushrooms worth it?
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TWDuke
Hi Fifijane

No problem.

The greek letter mu dates from the ancient Greek times but is still in use in their alphabet even though the actual language has evolved and changed.

1 milligram (mg) is equal to 1000 micrograms (μg).

Now about picking liberty caps. They will vary in size and freshness.

When fresh they look like the picture on Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_semilanceata

When dried they tend to be whiter.

Obviously they will vary in potency but on average they will contain the same amount so it's not something you should worry about.

If you look in Europe they can usually be found in Autumn. I used to gather them late Sep to early Oct.

This web site will enable you to spot possible locations depednign on the time of the year:

https://www.magicmushroommap.com/map

As always with mushrooms it is best to pick them up while accompanied with someone who can identify them as you don't want to ingest the wrong species!

Once you can identify them it is worth it I think.

Cheers
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Fifijane
Ps- TWduke do, you know anything about the classics? Can you tell me the right order to read my 7 books in?
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Fifijane
The Greek classics I mean)
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MightyRux
You may see this written as mcg too, Fifijane, but TWDuke is using the correct and unambiguous scientific nomenclature. Don't get your mg and mcg mixed up. Worse than mixing up tsp and tbsp in recipes! Definitely no such thing as too many questions. A wise boss once told me when I started in a job that it's better to appear a fool for a moment than to remain a fool for a lifetime. It took me a while to fully appreciate how right he is, and I'll never be afraid to appear to be a fool to some people if I gain knowledge from that.
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Fifijane
Gosh, quite a different between tsp, and tbsp. Will be sure not to get those confused, haha.

Clever, drug info science head bods up for questions, what a treat!

What is nomenclature, aside from a brilliant sounding word? Is it like 'terminology ?
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MightyRux
Yeah, more or less.

Lyophilised is a fun word too, which is basically a cool word for freeze dried that could come in handy playing Scrabble one day.

You're embracing the scientific process by utilising curiosity, and using products with reliable dosages rarely available anywhere. There are few people in the world with the ability to reliably produce LSD, and we get access. Find what works for you.

I used to meditate too. Tip of your tongue touching the roof of your mouth just behind your teeth, but without any part touching the teeth. Teeth very slightly apart. Sitting legs crossed and folded, back against the wall, fingertip of forefingers touching, breathing in through the nose, and out through the mouth, and it seemed like nonsense. One day it clicked, and it was so calming and serene.

I was on a course years ago and people at the start of the week who weren't really into it at the start were asleep during it by the end. Full relaxation achieved. Not sure if they aligned everything whilst doing so, but they may have done it better than I did as that never happened to me.
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Fifijane
Lyphophilised is for sure a more elegant way of saying 'shrivelled up', haha. Not to mention a very wicked word that would be so excellent to lay down in a scrabble move, but I fear
some extraordinaily synchronicity/phenomena would have to take place for such a thing to come about. Haha, Scrabble cynic.

Looking forward to reading what you have written there about meditation when more awake :)
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Fifijane
Is there a name for the meditation you detailed in this? I don't think i could do it though. Sounds like a bit too many things to get right. Well done for being a person who can! You should do it before your other bit of chocolate bar :)

This which you wrote. Very exciting

"few people in the world with the ability to reliably produce LSD, and we get access. Find what works for you.

It is such a result
!
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Fifijane
Sorry to ask so many questions.
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Fifijane
But a couple more if I may..
👾Can you just eat weed ,like mushrooms?
👾if you definitely need to make it hot- (cook it)- is it better to buy edibles, or to cook it yourself in cakes and stuff out of weed at home?

👾What is escrow?
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TWDuke
Hi Fifijane

Yes you can eat weed and hash although I have found out that results vary not just with potency. For me eating black afghan hash - or other black squidgy oily hashes - is where it's at.

That being said these days I just buy edibles (but even they are not all equal).

It is much easier to buy edibles than make them.

Without getting into the tech escrow is similar to Ebay Buyer Protection :-). It is what enables you to get a Bitcoin refund from transaxe if a dispute with a vendor cannot be resolved.

Cheers
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Fifijane
Thank you TWduke. I have had edibles before, and drinkables, haha. Very delicious hot chocolate. What I meant was can you just eat it just raw? From what I've read you have to make it hot first. I got given a tiny, tiny little bit, I weighed it out of curiosity and it was just over 1gram. This is how much of a light weight I am right, in the last three days I've smoked four joints out of it - in the little green rizlas- just the weed no tobacco, and I've been totally stoned for hours afterwards, haha 😂
I normally can't smoke it just makes me paranoid, and inarticulate, but this stuff this time made me paranoid and have scary thoughts for quite a while, but is very pleasant now. Same as last two nights. Mostly it's the nice bit. Since I started with psychedelics my body has a different response to all sorts of thins that used to affect me negatively, like ashwagandha and other supplements and bread among loads of other stuff. It's so totally magic.




And I still have enough for another of those, but really don't want to smoke it again, makes me cough till I'm nearly sick. That's why I asked if I can just eat it. But I think it's a no. And I can't do all the stuff with butter

Do you think eating the oily hash you mentioned is better than edibles?
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Fifijane
Thank you so much clever, helpful TWDUKE :)

It is so brilliant that you can't really abuse the acid and shrooms. It's great because even if someone were feeling a bit nutso and reckless and wants to take more and more as it starts to fade, your brain just goes - ok, that's enough

I can't believe how perfect this stuff is for me. Absolutely nothing that can give me a little head holiday agrees with me. Now I find something, and I can only take it once a month. Don't know if that's good or bad.

I hope you're having a good experience of microdosing the mushrooms. And 6 to 7 hours of sleep!!!!!! Oh my god, I would work for nothing for two years if I was guaranteed 6-7 hours sleep for even a year. So great for you.

I usually have very pleasurable experiences while actually meditating, but I have never really been able to bring the - "internal chatter getting quieter
,mind getting calmer, over into normal life, despite a lot of years of trying. But I don't know. It's hard to measure what your own consciousness felt like x amount of years ago. It would be really good if we could have that aged head next to you, and you could try it on for a few minutes for the contrast.


"Less is more", is a very helpful meditation tip for me, thank you. Can't feel bad and lazy about it if I don't do it loads.

Thank you so much :) °•☆
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Fifijane
Pps- TWduke- can I ask please, how close together and how large a dose were the back to back mushroom trips you mentioned?
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TWDuke
Hi fifijane

That was a long time ago in my late teenage years.

We took the usual dose: 50 fresh liberty caps each (not an heroic dose but a high dose indeed) and 5 hours into the trip when the effect was starting to fade we took another 50 each.

The rest of thenight was spent stuck on that coming down plateau but no hallucinations or intense giggles again.

It really is fireworks for the brain, the serotonin receptors need time to close down properly, like the weed t-break but much more obvious with psychedelics.

I also tried mushrooms the day after a full on mushroom trip and yet againthe effects were subdued.

Cheers
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Warriorrob
Did you find micro dosing helpful ? Iv got my caps to try off a great vendor in here .
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Fifijane
Hi Warriorrob :)
The honest, but slightly embarrassing answer is I don't really know. Nearly every time I've purchased courses I've ended up taking the whole thing as a proper trip.

However in my very limited experience of microdosing, I would say I have found the psychonaughts laser focus', to give me the best experience of what I need, but when it comes to a full trip, I have a more pleasurable time with mushrooms. Like I can't imagine a more unbelievably delicious feeling in the world.


I hope you get lots of good stuff from your caps :)
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Fifijane
To add though - had the most actual healing in one session (and possibly in one life time actually, haha) From my first dip your toe acid trip ( meant to be a microdose though
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greencigar
You've overlooked Amanita. There's a great book called 'Microsdosing Amanita Muscaria' by Baba Masha. There's nothing in there about ADHD, but I personally microdose 0.5g magic mushrooms / 0.5g amanita with cacao, chocolate, niacin, and lion's mane mushroom every other day. Great results for PTSD and my bi polar. Oh, small doses of THC edibles daily.
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Psychonauts
We agree on this! Amanita is amazing and if you live close to a Pine or Birch forest you could source some yourself very soon. We won't be surprised if you already could with all the rain :-)
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Fifijane
Thank you greencigar! How exciting! Does anyone sell it here?

I really love hearing about people who are managing their stuff in the non big pharma way.
I hope you keep seeing great results with you PTSD and BP , and really happy to hear it 💛
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greencigar
Be sure to use dried and decarbed Amanita. Do your research before consumption. Birch forests I've found to be better, with better specimens at higher altitude and away from the deer. Don't cut stems, just caps. THe red colour and yellow juice is what you want. Get a dehydrator for best results.
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Fifijane
Wow, you know loads about it!Thanks! So helpful, and how lovely to have been in places like that, and to know all that and done it. Now I have a visual of cookie monster trekking though birch forests with a basket tucked under his arm and Not cutting stems, haha.
Thank you so much °•°•☆•
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DaffyDeals
I sell month supplies of shroom capsules for micro-dosing :) hmu if u wanna chat about it
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